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题目:[翻译]资料整理
发帖人:@悱恻orchid
发表时间: 2009-02-04 17:11
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    【悱恻orchid】
    关于莱格拉斯的头发颜色:
    Legolas's hair color is not stated anywhere in the text of The Lord of the Rings . There is one vague description that might be taken to mean that Legolas had dark hair. 莱格拉斯的头发的颜色,在指环王中没有任何描述 。但是有一个模糊的描述可能意味着莱格拉斯是深色头发。
    Frodo looked up at the Elf standing tall above him, as he gazed into the night, seeking a mark to shoot at. His head was dark , crowned with sharp white stars that glittered in the black pools of the sky behind. 弗罗多望着站在他面前的高大精灵,当他凝视到深夜,寻找射击点。 他的头是黑的 ,环绕白色明星闪烁在黑色的天池后面。
    [The Fellowship of the Ring: "The Great River," p. 魔戒现身: “伟大的河” ,第 403 403 ]
    However, this passage is ambiguous because Frodo may only have seen the silhouette of the Elf's head in the dark night. 但是,这一段是模糊的,因为弗罗多可能只看到了精灵的头的轮廓在漆黑的夜里。
    In The Hobbit , Legolas's father Thranduil is described as having golden hair: 在霍比特人 ,莱格拉斯的父亲Thranduil被描述为拥有金发:
    ... ... at the head of a long line of feasters sat a woodland king with a crown of leaves upon his golden hair ... feasters国王坐在头一长排,冠叶在他的金色头发上...
    [The Hobbit: "Flies and Spiders," p. 霍比特人: “苍蝇和蜘蛛, ”第 165 165 ]
    If this passage is considered accurate, then Legolas may have inherited golden hair from his father. 如果这个节是准确的,那么莱格拉斯可以继承他的父亲的金发。
    Elven hair color is addressed in a comment in the Appendices:
    评论中的附件——精灵头发的颜色:
    They [the Quendi] were a race high and beautiful, the older Children of the world, and among them the Eldar were as kings, who are now gone: the People of the Great Journey, the People of the Stars. 他们[ Quendi ]是一个种族高,漂亮,年龄较大的儿童世界(这句我也不明白,蒙吧),其中的Eldar为国王,但现在已经不在了:伟大征程的人民,属于恒星的人民。
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      【悱恻orchid】
      They were tall, fair of skin and grey-eyed, though their locks were dark, save in the golden house of Finarfin ... 他们身材高大,白皙的皮肤和灰色的眼睛,但他们的黑暗封印,保存在黄金众议院Finarfin ...
      [Appendix F of The Lord of the Rings: Part II, "On Translation," p. 附录F的指环王:第二部分, “论翻译” ,第 415-16 415-16 ]
      This passage is frequently taken to mean that the only Elves with golden hair were those of the House of Finarfin and that since Legolas was of Sindarin descent, he should not have golden hair but be dark haired. 这节往往是意味着金发精灵只是那些在众议院Finarfin,而自莱格拉斯是辛达林后裔,他不应该有金色的头发,头发应是黑色的。
      However, in Christopher Tolkien's commentary on "The Cottage of Lost Play" in The Book of Lost Tales I , he suggests that this stricture on golden hair did not apply to all Elves, but only to the Noldor (who were originally called Gnomes): 但是,克里斯托弗托尔金的评注“村舍遗失播放” 在这本书中的失落的传说一中 ,他认为,这一狭窄的金发并不适用于所有精灵,但仅限于Noldor (谁最初称为侏儒) :
      这样的话,说明这些性状的脸和头发实际上书面的Noldor只,而不是所有的叶 :确实Vanyar了金色的头发,这是从Finarfin的Vanyarin不可或缺,他的母亲,和Finrod Felagund和加拉迪尔他的孩子们,他们的金发,标志着他们之间的王子的Noldor 。
      The Book of Lost Tales I: "The Cottage of Lost Play" (commentary), p. 书失落的传说一: “失落的村舍播放” (注) ,第 44 44
      If this is correct, then the comment about Elven hair color from Appendix F does not apply to the Sindarin Elves, who were a group of the Eldar separate from the Noldor, and thus it could be possible that some among them might have had golden hair. 如果这是正确的,那么评论精灵头发颜色从附录F不适用于辛达林精灵,谁是一组的叶分开Noldor ,因此有可能,一些其中可能有金发。
      There is another clue on the appearance of Sindarin Elves in a reference to the origin of the name Sindar , which means "the Grey" or "the Grey-Elves": 还有一个线索的出现,辛达林精灵中提及的起源Sindar的名称,意思是“灰色”或“灰色精灵” :
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        【悱恻orchid】
        The Loremasters also supposed that reference was made to the hair of the Sindar.
        Loremasters还提到Sindar的头发 。
        himself had long and beautiful hair of silver hue, but this does not seem to have been a common feature of the Sindar, though it was found among them occasionally especially in the nearer or remoter kin of Elwe (as in the case of Cirdan ). In general the Sindar appear to have very closely resembled the Exiles, being dark-haired , strong and tall, but lithe.
        Elwe本人有美丽的银色头发,但这似乎并没有和Sindar有共同特点 ,但发现它们之间的偶尔特别是在接近或更远的亲属Elwe (如Cirdan ) 。总的来说, Sindar似乎非常像流亡者,有黑发 ,强状和高大,但轻盈。
        [The History of Middle-earth, vol. 历史上的中土,第二卷。 XI, The War of the Jewels: "Quendi and Eldar," p. 十一,战争的宝石: “ Quendi和叶, ”第 384 384 ]
        This passages states that the majority of the Sindar were dark-haired, but it also allows that there were exceptions in the case of silver-haired Sindar. 这一通道的国家,大多数Sindar是黑发,但也允许有例外的情况下满头银发Sindar 。
        Thus it seems possible that there might also have been exceptions of Sindar with golden hair, such as Thranduil. 因此,似乎有可能,有可能也有例外Sindar金发,如Thranduil 。
        In the end there is no definitive word on the color of Legolas's hair, be it dark, golden, or otherwise. 最后也没有明确的文字说清莱格拉斯头发的颜色,无论是黑的,金,或其他。
        但都一定是美丽高贵的~~
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        2009-02-04 18:01
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        5楼2013-10-09 11:12
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          【悱恻orchid】
          姓名与职称:
          Legolas: 莱格拉斯:
          Legolas means "collection of green leaves" or simply "green leaf." 莱格拉斯的意思是“绿叶的收集”或简单的“绿叶” 。
          His name is a Silvan form of the Sindarin Laegolas .
          他的名字是一个Silvan形成Sindarin Laegolas 。
          The word leg means "green" in the Silvan dialect from the Sindarin laeg . 'leg'一词的意思是“绿色”,是从辛达林方言“laeg'而来 。
          The word las means "leaf" and golas means "collection of leaves" in Sindarin.
          ‘las‘一词的意思是“叶”,golas在辛达瑞里是“树叶的收集”。
          [The Letters of JRR Tolkien: Letter #211, #297 信JRR托尔金:信# 211 , # 297 ]
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          2009-02-04 18:18I


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            【艾玛拉斯】:
            我喜欢金色头发。
            6楼
            2009-02-04 19:48
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            【54绯村剑心】:
            这个不是精品什么是精品!!
            7楼
            2009-02-05 19:20
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            【白袷衣】:
            the older Children of the world 我想应该是说依露维塔的首生子 也就是精灵
            8楼
            2009-08-23 22:26
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            【白袷衣】:
            这是哪找的?真好 要是LZ读过精灵宝钻 一定能翻译的更好
            9楼
            2009-08-23 22:40
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            【龙啸中洲】:
            不错,不错啊
            10楼
            2009-08-24 09:54
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            【ャ啵昄榶〓昸ピ】:
            专业啊!!
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            2011-02-08 20:24
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            【乖猫め】:
            专业!!!LZ好厉害!!
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            2011-02-13 22:52
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            【绵尾巴】:
            好久的帖子。。。
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            2011-02-25 20:31
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            【絮雪兰馨飘の盈】:
            看完这个后怎么感觉LEGOLAS在我心中的形象位置降低了,你侮辱我的偶像啊,55555~~~~我的小莱啊~~~~
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            2011-02-27 17:24
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            【cxnrochchlh】
            顶一个!
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            2011-03-11 20:00
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            【夏日微风8888】
            谢谢楼主
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            2011-04-18 22:21
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            【悱恻orchid】:
            这贴居然还活在第一页!并且在别的吧里被转载了!
            奇哉!
            这只是个开始,抛砖引玉而已。这砖抛出去了,我更希望的是大家垒上的玉。
            谢谢大家~
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            2011-11-06 01:23
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            【1ego7as】:
            哇 兰州还在
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            2011-11-19 20:01
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            【riclanven】:
            莱格拉斯的父亲是:瑟兰迪尔,他还有两个哥哥,大儿子莱格迪尔,二儿子瑟兰拉斯
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