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不看。自己都是抽电子烟的


来自Android客户端52楼2015-10-12 11:17
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    除了这个贴, 其它涉及电子烟的帖子偶应该删掉。。。


    IP属地:河北53楼2015-10-12 11:28
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      我觉得因人而异吧,能戒烟的方法,都是好方法


      IP属地:山东54楼2015-10-12 11:37
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        混迹贴吧4月有余 没看到过有人用电子烟接过烟的~ 至于楼上有个跟帖回帖的 我觉得真实性有待商榷。~ 戒烟嘛内心深处想戒还要找替代品干嘛~..换个摄入尼古丁的方式?~


        IP属地:湖南55楼2015-10-12 11:54
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          电子烟的危害,主要体现在对戒烟者的心理误导!!
          戒烟的实质,一是要消除对尼古丁的生理依赖,二是要消除对社会烟文化影响下形成的吸烟心理依赖。
          其中对于单纯的生理依赖,无论是资料还是戒烟实践,都表明这并不是戒烟的主要障碍。
          众所周知,戒烟的主要障碍是吸烟心理依赖!
          所谓吸烟心理依赖:
          首先是社会烟文化误导下形成的“以烟为乐、吸烟有用、敬烟为礼”之类的错误价值观;
          其次是,吸烟者错误地把尼古丁的满足认定为“吸烟快感”,于是有了吸烟快感记忆;
          再次是,长期吸烟形成的不断追求吸烟快感 的条件反射。
          从以上的剖析中,我们来看看电子烟对消除吸烟心理依赖在哪一点上有积极作用?
          相反地,电子烟依然让人从烟的形状味道、吸烟动作等方面维持着吸真烟的感觉;
          用电子烟替代真烟的补偿性,还强化了吸烟是乐趣是享受的错误认知,维持了吸烟条件反射机制。
          电子烟强调各种口味的改进,更强化了人们对吸烟快感的记忆和追寻。
          仅此粗略地说说,就暴露出电子烟不但不能消除吸烟心理依赖,反而维护了吸烟心理依赖的认知基础,甚至助长了吸烟者复吸的心态。
          为了彻底远离烟魔,请拒绝电子烟的诱惑和误导,走认知戒烟之路,提升戒烟认识,转变错误观念,坚定地不吸一支烟,完全可以做到轻松长久地无烟。


          IP属地:江苏56楼2015-10-12 12:18
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            The Japanese team of researcher present in the table (shown above) the number of samples (column 2) and the respective results. The average levels of formaldehyde found in all samples was calculated at 4.2μg/10 puffs. Therefore, on average, the levels of formaldehyde in e-cigarettes are up to 50 times lower compared to tobacco cigarette smoke.
            Obviously, we have to realize that focusing the discussion on one of the tens of carcinogens present in tobacco cigarette smoke is misleading. Even if e-cigarettes contained similar, or higher, levels of formaldehyde, they do not contain the majority of other toxic and carcinogenic substances present in cigarette smoke. Overall, any residual risk from e-cigarette use is orders of magnitude lower than smoking. This is exactly what smokers need (and deserve) to know.
            ***************************** UPDATE ******************************
            After my comment, Prof Kunugita contacted me again. He mentioned that the newsmedia reports refer to a recent evaluation of a newer-generation device, in which he found 1600μg formaldehyde per 15 puffs. It is true that this level is 10 times higher than what is present in tobacco cigarettes. However, this is an unpublished result, a single extreme case out of the many products he tested, and we do not know what went wrong in that case (e.g. high power levels, low levels of liquid inside, malfunctioning device etc). Still, the media frenzy is completely inappropriate.
            This confusion shows why it is important for a new, systematic evaluation of aldehydes release, taking into consideration realistic conditions and puffing patterns together with evaluation of temperatures of evaporation. This is exactly what we are preparing to do, starting in a few days.
            懒得翻译了,按平均值电子烟是低50倍,但有一个油是1600ug。原因未明,那个做实验的教授也说了,这不是正式报告,他要媒体道歉。
            数据自己看,http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/2013-04-07-09-50-07/2014/188-frm-jp


            IP属地:上海57楼2015-10-12 12:26
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              戒就戒,没必要搞那么多花样,其实都是在自欺欺人,真心想戒挺挺就过来了。关键是决心加真心…


              来自Android客户端59楼2015-10-12 12:45
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                m562307059:以前不懂,看贴总是不回 ,一直没提升等级和增加经验,现在我明白了,反正回贴可以升级 ,也可以赚经验,而升级又需要经验 ,我就把这句话复制下来 ,遇贴就灌水,捞经验就闪


                来自Android客户端60楼2015-10-12 14:41
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                  看望吧主!


                  IP属地:山东来自Android客户端61楼2015-10-12 15:43
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                    《电子烟的危害》这个贴子戳到电子烟推销商的痛处了!!!
                    难怪有人在这里为电子烟狡辩了!


                    IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端62楼2015-10-12 15:53
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                      来自Android客户端63楼2015-10-12 16:45
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                        电子烟比真的烟草危害还要大得多,纯粹是化学毒品。


                        IP属地:四川来自Android客户端64楼2015-10-12 16:50
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                          烟本无益之物,不抽是最正确的选择!既然烟都戒了,为何又要去选择电子烟这东西?
                          流行的不一定就是有益的,人啊,可得有点主见。
                          支持一下小哲。


                          IP属地:云南来自Android客户端65楼2015-10-12 16:51
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                            抽那个玩意儿做什么,既然戒了就直接戒掉,整这破玩意儿搞嘛


                            66楼2015-10-12 16:53
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                              有些人直接戒掉比较困难,采用电子烟来辅助戒烟,最终能彻底戒烟也是好的,而不是有烟草转电子烟,


                              IP属地:山东67楼2015-10-12 17:24
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